Individualism vs. collectivism

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Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Ereaon » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:11 pm

Go!

I expect Ddrak is an individualist.

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Lurker » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:29 pm

Can you define your terms?

Everyone on the board is an individualist who also finds society to be important to varying degrees. Nodoby is going to fit neatly to one term or the other.

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Ereaon » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:10 pm

Lurker wrote:Everyone on the board is an individualist who also finds society to be important to varying degrees. Nodoby is going to fit neatly to one term or the other.
That takes the fun out of it.

Basically an individualist vs. a collectivist is:
Individualist believes: Only individuals have rights, not collective groups. A group only has as much power as individuals allow it.
Collectivist believes: Individuals only have the rights that the state allows
An individualist leads by example, a collectivist will use coercion to force people to obey rules.
An individualist believes in equality in law, a collectivist believes in equality through law.
An individualist believes the proper function of the state is to protect, not to provide. A collectivist believes in the redistribution of wealth via taxes to provide for the members of the state. I.e. charities vs. welfare.

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Harlowe » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:37 pm

People don't fit absolutely in one or the other.

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Select » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:39 pm

I think you'll find your answers if you read the Politics section. And as everyone has said so far, people won't fit neatly, but crossover issue to issue.
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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Kulaf » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:12 pm

I would probably say that at the Federal level I am an individualist (using your terms and definitions), and at the state and local level I am a Collectivist.

I firmly believe that help/charity is best rendered by the people closest to the need.

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Harlowe » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:28 pm

I think it would be interesting to do an IP check on n00b come lately. =)

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Alluveal » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:42 pm

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Ereaon » Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:19 pm

Harlowe wrote:I think it would be interesting to do an IP check on n00b come lately. =)
:shock:

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Ddrak » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:44 am

Harlowe wrote:I think it would be interesting to do an IP check on n00b come lately. =)
?? No other poster has used any of the IPs that Ereaon has used since 2005. Why?

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Select » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:57 am

Harlowe thinks I have a sock. Yeah, that's it.
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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Lurker » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:04 am

I think he's Ddrak. He praised himself by name and now he's burying the evidence with phony IP checks.

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Select » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:09 am

:lol:
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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Ereaon » Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:19 am

Lurker wrote:I think he's Ddrak.
Eh, I was guilded with Ddrak long enough in EQ to take that as a compliment. I'll completely ignore the reasons you said it :)

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Garrdor » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:54 pm

All Australians are imposters and criminals at some point of their lives.
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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Fobbon Lazyfoot » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:08 pm

Australians are a hoax perpetuated by the British government. ITS NOT WORKING, REDCOATS! WERE NOT BELIEVING ANY OF YOU HAVE STRAIGHT TEETH OR SUNTANS!
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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Ddrak » Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:20 am

:)

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Harlowe » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:33 am

It smelled like a Jecks sockpuppet to me. Just seemed like a weird post to come out of nowhere from someone not posting for years was it? =)

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Lurker » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:37 am

He's Ddrak. The denials and the fake IP check prove that.

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Re: Individualism vs. collectivism

Post by Select » Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:24 pm

It smelled like a Jecks sockpuppet to me. Just seemed like a weird post to come out of nowhere from someone not posting for years was it? =)
Careful, he may go drama queen about you being a drama queen about him being a drama queen.
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